Ep. 204 - The SE ETC Series - FUD or Empathy - What Makes Better Security with David Sherry

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [March 27, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:18 - Patrick Laverty Intro 01:01 - Intro Links -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 05:02 - David Sherry Intro 07:25 - Today's Topic: How to Develop a Culture of Top-Down Security 11:42 - The Weakest Link 14:03 - It's All About the "Report" 17:37 - Culture is Everything 20:28 - Zero to Sixty! 23:27 - Make it Personal 25:55 - MVP: Most Valuable People 27:33 - Empowerment through Education 37:11 - The Chicken or the Egg? 39:32 - Book Recommendations -          Project Zero Trust - George Finney -          Race After Technology - Ruha Benjamin -          This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends - Nicole Perlroth -          The Indispensables - Patrick K. O'Donnell 43:02 - Find David Sherry Online -          Twitter: twitter.com/CISOatPrinceton -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/davidsherry -          Website: informationsecurity.princeton.edu 44:17 - Next Month: The History of VISHING 44:43 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org   Find us online -          Chris Hadnagy -          Twitter: @humanhacker -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy -          Patrick Laverty -          Twitter: @plaverty9 -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9