516: Leadership is Changing Mashup | (ft. Patricia Bradley and Jason Hopcus)

How are leaders shaping the narrative around mental health within their organizations? In this episode, Denis chats with Patricia Bradley and Jason Hopcus, to discuss their diverse career journeys, leadership styles, and dedication to mental health advocacy. Patricia shares her eclectic professional journey and discusses the revolutionary work her company does in neurotechnology, emphasizing adaptability in leadership. Jason opens up about his personal challenges and transformation, highlighting his work with NAMI and The Connection Project to provide crucial mental health resources and support. Together, they underscore the importance of reframing mental health discourse. Leaders need to not only foster a supportive environment but also actively care for their own well-being. The key takeaway? A leader's journey might be nonlinear, but adaptability, self-awareness, and a proactive stance toward mental health are indispensable in today's dynamic world.In this episode:Patricia shares an overview of her diverse career path, starting from college to her role at MindMaze, working on Wall Street, and the challenges she faced.Patricia talks about the work of MindMaze in neurotechnology and its applications, including its use with Formula One racers.Patricia reflects on her leadership style, the importance of adaptability in leadership, and her continuous journey of self-improvement.Denis and Patricia discuss the incredible capabilities of the human brain and MindMaze's work in neurotechnology and digital therapeutics.Jason discusses his previous career and how the 2008 financial crisis impacted him, leading him to mental health supportive work.Denis and Jason emphasize the importance of changing the narrative around mental health and encouraging open conversations. Main takeaways:Life and career paths are not always linear. Embracing an eclectic journey, being open to different opportunities, and adapting to change can lead to a fulfilling and successful career.You might need to make bold decisions to step off the traditional path to find your own way, especially when faced with structural challenges or when your path does not align with your aspirations.Successful leadership requires continuous learning and adaptability. Even if initial leadership roles are challenging, there is value in learning from experience and evolving your leadership style over time.Leaders need to be aware of their mental health and recognize when they might be struggling. It’s crucial to address these issues promptly and seek support when needed.A network of support is essential. Leaders shouldn’t isolate themselves and must understand that they are not alone in their struggles.Leaders should be proactive in seeking out and utilizing available mental health resources, both for themselves and for those they lead.Quotes:"You have to decide at some point, even when you're young; If they don't let you follow the path that you want to take, you have to make that bold decision to take a different path." – Patricia Bradley“Nothing that we are ashamed of can live in the light.” – Jason Hopcus“Me taking care of me is as important as me taking care of other people.” –  Jason Hopcus“We have to change the narrative and dialogue about how we invite people into the conversation about their mental health.” –  Jason HopcusConnect with Denis: Email: denis@leadingchangepartners.comWebsite: