Michael Levin Λ Joscha Bach on The Global Mind, Collective Intelligence, Agency, and Morphogenesis

YouTube link: https://youtu.be/kgMFnfB5E_AThis theolocution has been released early in an ad-free audio version for TOE members at http://theoriesofeverything.org.Sponsors: - Drink Trade: https://www.drinktrade.com/everything for 30% off-Uncommon Goods: uncommongoods.com/everything for 15% off your first gift!- Roman: https://ro.co/curt for 20% off first order- Masterworks: https://www.masterworks.art/toe (promocode: theoriesofeverything)Average net returns/Net IRR reflects annualized return on investment, net of all fees andexpenses. Past performance is not indicative of future results.*New* TOE Website (early access to episodes): https://theoriesofeverything.org/Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungalCrypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOEPayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOETwitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurtDiscord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqsiTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfPSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4eSubreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverythingLINKS MENTIONED:- Michael Levin (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/Z0TNfysTazc- Michael Levin Theolocution With Chris Fields & Karl Friston: https://youtu.be/J6eJ44Jq_pw- Joscha Bach Theolocution With John Vervaeke: https://youtu.be/rK7ux_JhHM4- Joscha Bach Theolocution With Donald Hoffman: https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww- Joscha Bach (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/3MNBxfrmfmIThis episode has been released early in an ad-free audio version for TOE members at http://theoriesofeverything.org/TIMESTAMPS:00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:55 Bach and Levin speak about each other's work00:03:34 The cell functions as a neuron 00:07:15 Software as a control pattern00:10:55 Disciplinary boundaries in academia00:14:38 The perceptron is a "toy model" of the brain00:18:44 How do you identify yourself as a researcher?00:20:10 The benefits of podcasts vs. academia00:30:04 Beliefs of Bach's and Levin's that have drastically changed00:38:54 Memory moves outside the brain structure00:45:06 Engrams and memory storage00:47:30 The implications of transferring memory between species00:55:25 Weissman's barrier00:59:25 The notion of "competence" (Bach's and Levin's largest insight)01:12:10 Virtualization for unreliable hardware01:16:02 Defining "competence"01:22:35 Bach's issues with goals (for and against teleology)01:27:34 Planarian goals and explicitly encoded instructions01:34:55 Navigation in "Morphic Space"01:36:11 One species' birth defect can be another's benefit01:37:42 The "Intelligence Trap" and bias01:39:05 Application of each others' work to their own01:52:25 Necessities of general intelligence in cells