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This episode comes from the first live event for this podcast on the 3rd of October (as a result the sound quality varies). This was a great panel discussion event with Lorraine (from episode 1) and Sarika (episode 4) where we discussed some of the reasons it is so hard to have this discussion in the first place. It was lively and was followed by even more engagement in the following unrecorded break-out rooms. Based on this energy, I will be hosting the next event in Nairobi on the 6th November 2021 at 3pm at Lava Latté - more information on social media. For now, I hope you enjoy this episode! Join our email newsletter by filling in this form: https://forms.gle/Dfv1Gurq28NjsRG69Follow for more on Instagram: thedevelopmentdilemma; Twitter: @dev_dilemma. Music credits: Juliani, 'Kama sa Sisi'Instagram: thedevelopmentdilemma; Twitter: @dev_dilemma; Music credits: Juliani, 'Kama sa Sisi'