To reduce polarization, is it optimal to work on systemic change or cultural change?, with David Foster

A talk with David Foster, who writes about polarization and media at knowthesystem.org and is the author of "Moderates of the World Unite!: Reworking the Political Media Complex." Topics discussed include: the optimal approach for reducing toxic political polarization (cultural change vs systemic changes); defining the word 'moderate' and examining some of the negative connotations it has; the difficulty of making changes in a polarized, high-animosity environment; why some conservatives dislike the idea of making systemic changes; the ideas in David's book for improving the media environment and political discourse.------------------------------------------------------The Other Side of the Struggle (Healing from Betrayal Trauma)Healing from betrayal trauma is no small feat! It takes a lot of work, time, and...Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify Revolutionizing Your Journey: Travel With Points & MilesHear travel stories from everyday people who learned how to travel for (nearly) freeListen on: Apple Podcasts   SpotifySupport the Show.To get ad-free episodes, and more, get a premium subscription. To learn more about the show, go to behavior-podcast.com. I'm on Twitter at @apokerplayer. See a summary of my work.