Mac n’ Cheese and a Trip to the Hardware Store

After another compelling week for Democrats, Vice President Kamala Harris hit the road with her newly minted running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz. To illuminate the upshot of the pick strategically, Former Senator Claire McCaskill is joined by guest co-host David Jolly, former Congressman of Florida’s 13th District. The pair analyze the shifting dynamics in the race, which had been Trump's to lose, and why Harris has been underestimated in the past. Then, they’re joined by Politico’s politics bureau chief Jonathan Martin, who attended Walz’ debut in Philadelphia, to glean what he brings to the ticket and how the Trump campaign is responding. Also, a note to our listeners: Claire’s good friend and co-host here on 'How To Win', Jennifer Palmieri, has moved on from our MSNBC and podcast family to join the Harris-Walz campaign. She'll be taking her wisdom and expertise to literally sort out how to win this fall. We love you Jen, and we wish you all the best! Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber you’ll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows.