#017 My Talk With Non-Binary Comic Jes Tom

Send us a textCharlie reconnects with his former student, the self-described non binary, trans, queer, Asian-American stand-up comedian Jes Tom.  Coming off a fantastic feature article in the NYTimes about their career, Jes and Charlie talk about the challenges they confront as an artist, and also their time in his classroom.  They both address a pivotal moment for both of them as teacher and student, and confront Charlie's blind spots when dealing with race and gender issues.  If you are an artist looking to gain more insight into navigating a non-binary world in a more sensitive and thoughtful way, then this episode will resonate. You can follow CBP on Instagram @creatingbehavior, and Charlie's NYC acting conservatory, the Maggie Flanigan Studio @maggieflaniganstudio. Theme music by  https://www.thelawrencetrailer.com. For written transcripts, to leave a voicemail on SpeakPipe, or contact Charlie for private coaching, check out https://www.creatingbehaviorpodcast.com