241. Embrace Healthy Perfectionism with Katherine Morgan Schafler #FabulousFriends

I’m excited to welcome Katherine Morgan Schafler to the show! She's a psychotherapist, writer, speaker, and the former onsite therapist at Google. She earned her bachelor's degree in psychology at UC Berkeley before obtaining two masters from Columbia University. Additionally, she completed her postgraduate training and certification at the Association of Spirituality and Psychotherapy in NYC. Today I'm bringing Katherine on to talk about her recently published book, The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control, which is designed to help you understand the different types of perfectionism, how your perfectionism can work for you, (not against you), and how to embrace it. We talk about the sociocultural issues ambitious women face, the importance of living in alignment with what you truly value, and how you can harness perfectionism in a healthy way to be your most authentic self. Having these conversations inspires me to take a beat and think about how I am being thoughtful with my days, my energy, and my time, and I’m so grateful to Katherine for sharing her professional advice with us. If you’re a fellow self-proclaimed perfectionist, make sure to take the perfectionist profile quiz on her website to understand your type, and pick up a copy of her new book, The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control, to learn more.We also cover…00:01:32 — Perfectionism Isn’t a Bad ThingKatherine’s career journeyRead: The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control: A Path to Peace and PowerThe sociocultural issues with languaging used to describe womenMaladaptive vs adaptive perfectionismCommercial wellness labeling perfectionism as “bad” when it isn’tWhy high functioning people suffer from stress and depression How to begin working through what doesn’t feel right in your life00:19:44 — Living in Alignment with Your ValuesPleasure’s role in finding what makes you happyThe difference between immediate gratification and pleasureThe connection between perfectionism and happinessTwo questions Katherine encourages ambitious, high-achieving women to ask themselvesBreaking the illusion of control00:32:06 — How to Unleash Your Perfectionism in a Healthy WayThe different types of perfectionism and each one’s advantages and liabilities Take the perfectionist profile quiz: perfectionistsguide.com/quizWhat types of perfectionists Kelly and Katherine areDr. Kristin Neff's framework: 3 skills for responding to yourself compassionatelyReframing the idea of productivityManage Your Energy, Not Your Time by Tony Schwartz and Catherine McCarthyResources:Website: perfectionistsguide.comRead: The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control: A Path to Peace and Power by Katherine Morgan SchaflerTake the quiz: perfectionistsguide.com/quizInstagram: @katherinemorganschaflerLinkedIn:...