Dopey 479: "I f*cked it up. Literally, you said, right as I went, don't f*ck it up, and then I f*cked it up." Relapsing on Nitrous, Kava and Kratom in Sober Living. Meth, Heroin, Recovery, Detox

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This week on Dopey! Dove and Thuann are back! Dove relapses in sober living and shares her experience of what went wrong! We deep delve into Dove's relapse and what her plans are now to stay on the right path! PLUS Thuonn from Mountainside is back with a great talk on 'How to Cultivate Hope!'
 
Plus a crazy voicemail about attempted sex wearing a diaper, emails aplenty and the return of my dad! PLUS much more on this brand new jam packed episode of the good old Dopey show!
 
Here's a bunch of AI Notes:
 
They talk about the factors that led to their relapse, including seeking validation from others and engaging in risky behavior. Dove discusses their mindset during this time and the rationalizations they made to justify their actions. They also talk about the effects of misusing medication and the allure of substances. Eventually, Dove realizes the need for a structured program and enters inpatient treatment again. David and Dove discuss their experiences with spirituality and sobriety. They talk about the resistance to spirituality, the importance of being all in, and the gift of desperation. They also touch on the application of principles to drug use, the similarities between eating disorders and addiction, and the challenges of living in a sober living house. Dove shares her aspirations to go to law school and work on the criminalization of addiction.
Keywords: relapse, inpatient treatment, sober living, validation, risky behavior, mindset, rationalization, medication misuse, structured program. 

Keywords: spirituality, sobriety, resistance, all in, gift of desperation, principles, drug use, eating disorders, addiction, sober living, law school, criminalization of addiction



Takeaways
Seeking validation from others can lead to risky behavior and relapse.
Misusing medication can be a red flag and a slippery slope towards relapse.
Having a structured program and working the steps can help in maintaining recovery.
Honesty and rigorous self-reflection are crucial in the recovery process.
Resistance to spirituality can hinder progress in sobriety, but being all in and embracing spirituality can be beneficial.
Applying principles to drug use can help in recovery, but it's important to address other destructive behaviors as well.
Eating disorders and addiction share similar compulsive patterns and can be equally destructive.
Living in a sober living house can have its challenges, including dealing with difficult roommates.
Dove aspires to go to law school and work on the criminalization of addiction.
 


Titles
The Importance of a Structured Program
The Slippery Slope of Seeking Validation


Sound Bites
"I fucked it up. Literally, you said, right as I went, don't fuck it up, and then I fucked it up."
"I started crushing up my well-being trend. That was like the beginning of my relapse."
"I'm just desperate to feel okay in my own skin. And there's only so long I can sit in it."
"I've been pretty resistant to spirituality."
"I feel like I was taking that a little too far."
"I was still doing all this other fucked up shit."

AI THUANN NOTES: 
Summary: In this conversation, David and Thuan discuss the concept of cultivating hope and finding purpose in life. Thuan shares his perspective on how hope is always present, but our negative thoughts and beliefs can block us from accessing it. They also explore the idea of hitting rock bottom and the role of surrender and asking for help in recovery. Thuan emphasizes the importance of taking small, attainable steps and finding support in community. They discuss the Dopey Zoom meetings and the power of vulnerability and rawness in sharing experiences. Thuan shares his belief that sobriety is not the end goal, but rather living one's life purpose and helping others. They touch on the role of spirituality in finding solutions to life's challenges and the importance of staying humble and open-minded. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the meaning of a life well-lived and the value of doing good and avoiding harm.
Keywords: hope, purpose, rock bottom, surrender, asking for help, small goals, community, vulnerability, Dopey Zoom, sobriety, spirituality, solutions, humility, doing good, avoiding harm
Takeaways
Hope is always present, but our negative thoughts and beliefs can block us from accessing it.
Hitting rock bottom can be a catalyst for change and surrendering to the need for help.
Taking small, attainable steps and finding support in community can help in the recovery process.
Sobriety is not the end goal, but rather living one's life purpose and helping others.
Spirituality can provide solutions to life's challenges and bring a sense of peace and fulfillment.
Staying humble, open-minded, and focused on doing good and avoiding harm can lead to a meaningful and fulfilling life.


Titles
Rock Bottom and the Power of Surrender
Small Steps and Community Support in Recovery


Sound Bites
"The hope is always there. It's just my mind that's telling me that I'm worthless, that I can't get out of this."
"When we're at our worst, where does the hope go? The hope doesn't go anywhere. It's just that my mind has checked out of the hope."
"Hope is getting to the meeting. It's the energy of hope. Like maybe there's something here that can help me in this moment when I just don't feel like I can do it on my own."










 



Dopey 479: "I f*cked it up. Literally, you said, right as I went, don't f*ck it up, and then I f*cked it up." Relapsing on Nitrous, Kava and Kratom in Sober Living. Meth, Heroin, Recovery, Detox

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