Billy Newman Photo Podcast | 157 First Day Of Fall

First Day Of Fall, Smoke on the west coast, Oregon Wildfires, Working on photos and writing.



Gear that I work with 



Professional film stock I work with https://imaging.kodakalaris.com/photographers-photo-printing/film/color



I keep my camera in a Lowepro camera bag 



https://www.lowepro.com/us-en/magnum-400-aw-lp36054-pww/



When I am photographing landscape images I use a Manfrotto tripod 



https://www.manfrotto.com/us-en/057-carbon-fiber-4-section-geared-tripod-mt057c4-g/



A lot of my film portfolio was created with the Nikon N80 and Nikon F4



https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/f4.htm



https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/n80.htm



The Nikon D2H and Nikon D3 were used to create many of the digital images on this site https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond3 https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond2h



Two lenses I am using all the time are the 50mm f1.8 and the 17-40mm f4 



https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/5018daf.htm



https://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/17-40mm.htm



Some astrophotography and documentary video work was created with the Sony A7r



https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-alpha-a7r



I am currently taking photographs with a Canon 5D



https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii



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I am Billy Newman, a photographer and creative director that has served clients in the Pacific Northwest and Hawaii for 10 years. I am an author, digital publisher, and Oregon travel guide. I have worked with businesses and individuals to create a portfolio of commercial photography. The images have been placed within billboard, print, and digital campaigns including Travel Oregon, Airbnb, Chevrolet, and Guaranty RV.



My photographs often incorporate outdoor landscape environments with strong elements of light, weather, and sky. Through my work, I have published several books of photographs that further explore my connection to natural places.



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157 Billy Newman Photo podcast mixdown First Day Of Fall



Hello, and thank you very much for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast. Appreciate you guys checking this one out. It's nice that the good part of the smoke is cleared up here in the western part of Oregon. I'm pretty happy about that. I think on the last podcast, and you probably might have heard me talking about the Oregon wildfires. And some of the consequences that have arisen from those starting up over the Labor Day weekend and are really stuck have really taken off over the Labor Day weekend. Really strange to kind of go through it and experience it. You know, I guess there have been other big fires like that in the past. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff in California that is still going on. And I don't think he's had the kind of rain relief that Oregon has been fortunate to get, at least in some northern parts of Oregon. So I think some of that is some good news for the Oregon side. I know that the fires are still going on. I know that they're not really all 100% contained. I think even you know, like the fire that was in Southern Oregon and the talent. The Phoenix area still exists. It's still burning. And it's I think there's another one is shady Cove that's still burning. I think really like there's a significant amount that's still on fire. But I also think it's a little more of a controlled and contained space now. I know that they contain it. And so it's probably good news for the most part. And Wow, did we get some good brainstorms over the last couple of days or so up here in Oregon? It's been pretty significant. I was on the freeway a lot yesterday. And on the way down, I think it rained a little, but it was pretty clear most of the way down like a partly cloudy first day of Fall. What do you know about that? Is Summer over? Yeah, first, but we got a little off, I think, last week to a good thunderstorm too. I don't know if you guys were able to check that one out. I was talking to a friend on the phone who was down in Southern Oregon. And they could see Sunday, or like a year thunder and, I guess, see some lightning bolts striking off in the distance down there in Southern Oregon too. And then I could see it up here in Northern Oregon. So I was kind of surprised. We had a lot of lightning and heard a lot of thunder rolling over the town here. And it was pretty easy. Then again, it was a lot. So I was like, I haven't heard one over town like that. Probably every ten years that I've kind of been in the area, or you know route about here and there. So I thought that was pretty cool. Getting to see some thunder, some cool lighting, and stuff. And it was nice that we were fortunate. I think that it was followed by a good bit of rain. So I'm really hoping that there weren't any new strikes that lit off new fires that ended up being significant. I think it was taken care of pretty well. But man, yeah, really dry still, even in this time of September. So I think we got rain last week during that thunderstorm. And then we got pretty heavy rain. This seems like yesterday, yesterday evening. It seems like it was pretty wet for a good part of the day. A lot of the time, we were driving, driving around on the freeway yesterday. It was like, wow, we are getting slammed with rain. And that kind of that middle section, Oregon there. So hopefully, that that landed up in the Cascades in some spots to put out or help with some of the fires that are coming down. And I know there's also some problems that come about with rain too, you know, a lot of wetness and stuff, some locations where things are just kind of unstable. I think it kind of adds another element of instability. But really, right now it's definitely needed to get something coated on the ground, given how dry it's been for the last couple of months here. So it was really cool that September's come around that there's been a little of rain and that we're kind of moving through the season a little. It's a nice relief to it's, I know the fires are still burning, but it's it really is a significant relief to have a good bit of that wildfire smoke pushed off the west coast here, these West Coast valleys or the west of the Cascades, I was really socked in for a few days as a prize back. So I'm glad to see it kind of cleared up again. It's kind of nice, and I couldn't really take any more smoke. It was so thick, you know, you couldn't see really across the street. I was there's like four days there. I don't think I left the house. I talked about that before. But man, it was just like, oh, man, wait too much. So really glad to have a change in the weather. And I think we're actually supposed to get another heatwave next week. So I hope that kind of goes mellow for us. I know there's they're talking about that as a concern in California where they haven't got the rain that I think we've got the relief that we've got from the rain. So I think that Yeah, they think they're bracing for another wave of heat to come through. I think that's probably going to affect us and our weather here in the Oregon area as well. Sometime in the first part of October. So I'm hopeful that it kind of stays mellow, but yeah, wow. It's going to be kind of nice to still more interesting curves and stuff to come in 2020 Well, you know So I'm hopeful that the fires and stuff in Oregon have kind of tamp down a little that we're not going to see a significant amount of fire damage, or, you know, new fire problems arise. And I think there's still people that are, I'm certain that there's so people in zones that are restricted from returning to their homes, you know, even if they weren't burned, but they were like maybe a burn area or near burn area, I think that they're still in like an area that was evacuated. And if they are, if it's a red zone, or maybe still the yellow zone, I'm not sure. But I think if it's, if it's in an evacuated area, you're now allowed to return to your house yet, so you're still just evacuated somewhere, which would be very strange. It'd be really strange to just be out, you know, somewhere away from your house. I feel awful for all those people and how kind of upside-down that must feel this month. And yeah, I don't I don't recall a time that it's affected somebody, somebody, like smaller communities like that all at one time. I mean, just like up and down the I five corridor, or up and down that, I guess the the western side of the Cascade Range, there was just problems throughout it. So it's wild. I've never heard anything like that before. But I've seen it's the first day of Fall, or it's, it's just been the first day of Fall a couple of days ago. So I think we've just passed our What is it the autumnal equinox, which is pretty cool. Autumnal equinox I think it was the 22nd this year, we had the Yeah, equal day, equal time of day and night, as we kind of move in toward the winter. And as we kind of move in toward the winter solstice, coming up late December, this year, but yeah, move past the equinox here in Fall now, or I guess from summer to fall. So now we're an autumn? And I think but is it like the quarter point, or like the halfway point between now and the solstice is I think, was it like maybe November 10. There's some time around this early November. I think it was also kind of part of why Halloween was placed at the date it was. There's some kind of screwy things that have happened with the calendar. In the past, you won't hear about that. Listen to the night sky podcast. Another one that I've worked on a bunch of the past. Or probably maybe some older episodes of this one's probably this feed to somewhere back there. That there was some changes in the calendar that happened back in the Middle Ages. But prior to that, the reason that Halloween was placed on the 31st or that that All Hallows Eve thing is because it was sort of like a spiritual holiday where it was half a halfway point between the equinox and the winter solstice. There's also, I think, a couple others that are sort of strangely placed in there. Like, I think it's like Groundhog's Day, is one like right around February 1 is a halfway point. I think that Mayday is another one. Maybe it was the llamas' day. I think it's still a holiday in parts of Europe. Or it's Yeah, I don't know, the calendar or something. But I think that's August 1. So I think August 1, October 31, February 2, and may 1, are all part of this. What I don't know, middle holiday section. But you know, for our work there was it was the middle point between the equinox and the solstice has placed between each of the seasons. But yeah, that was kind of interesting. Fascinating. So right now, yeah, we're at the equinox point of it. So it's kind of cool. I hadn't been able to do any astronomical observations or seeing any stars or planets or anything for a few days there. Certainly while the smoke was really heavy. So I mean, I think just a couple days ago is like the first time I've been able to see a star, and it was seemed like two weeks or something, right. So it was able to be was able to spot a couple of things out there, which were pretty cool. I think I talked a bit about Jupiter and Saturn that are out to the south of this night, kind of, I don't know the eight o'clock nine o'clock range, you know, just kind of right in the nighttime there. Well, actually, now that it's getting dark earlier, I think now that we're right after the after the equinox, we should be getting dark around like 715 seven o'clock or so it's kind of getting like pretty damn out there. But by eight o'clock, certainly you're able to see a pretty dark sky. And I think you're able to spot Venus and Jupiter really easily to the to the south while you're here in the north. Well, I guess probably just about everywhere. But yeah, up here in the Northern Hemisphere, you're able to look out to the south and spot the bright spots. I think the brightest spot right is Jupiter. And I think it's still up in what would be Sagittarius and then a bit to the left. Have the brighter Jupiter is Saturn, and that's still visible in that area. But then in the morning sky which is cool I've only really been able to spot it a couple of times is Venus is coming up now it's actually up pretty high in the sky, and it's really quite bright in the in the morning sky, it's its always really stunning in the morning and the evening to when it when it's near bright, or it's near. It's like brightest points like wow, you can really see that planet. Wow. So it's always really fun to see. But I think if you're up at like 3:34am Yeah, it's still dark for a few hours. So yeah, probably like for him. It should be up, and you should be able to see it for a few hours. But yeah, if you're up around, like, like 430 or five, you'll be able to see it kind of high in the sky, but maybe some of like the murkier cloud cover that you would have on the horizon or a smog layer or whatever it is on the horizon line. But yeah, I think it's up a bit higher, I think probably around 5am or so you're able to see a pie in the sky, I was able to see a pretty high couple times, even back in August, like a month ago or so I was able to check it out a bit. So it's been cool. Good to spot a couple of planets out there. I think if you wait, yeah, like, Wait till about midnight or so maybe it's a little earlier, now you're able to spot Mars coming up over the horizon line. So probably about 1am or so you'd be able to get a good view of the planet Mars over on the eastern horizon, as it's kind of rising up there in the east. It's cool. Yeah, it's really, really bright kind of copper, red, red, orange color. It's cool. That's mostly most of the plants that are that are popping up right now are mostly stuff that I've gotten to check out the last couple of days. But I just got up got up early a couple of days ago, it was able to spot Venus at the window and kind of keeping an eye on it as it's been moving around. But it's pretty cool. Yeah, get us down to a couple planets was pretty fun. So magenta, keep up with some astronomy stuff. And sky watching stuff is cool. Been a little less of it this summer, I guess, you know, just with everything else going on different boats and stuff. But I have been studying a lot of argue astronomy stuff, which is pretty cool. I want to try and kind of bring that into maybe a little of this podcast as a promo, but, but also kind of bring it into some other project stuff that I'm trying to do. So I'll try and get into that. At some point. I think I put up a podcast a little while ago about to Like comment neowise and some of the observations that I was doing around it. So yeah, so sort of more more talk like that over on the night sky podcast when I was talking about earlier. And a lot of kind of weird esoteric, talk about changes to the calendar and changes to astronomical observations or, you know, mythologies and stuff that we have about space and stars. So I was like, that sounds kind of fun. And you can get kind of, kind of deep with it. At least like the research side of it's really cool to, to kind of look at what different people are thinking, you know, because it's like 1000s of years of, you know, like Baileys people putting out their, their feelings about what they thought about these different things at different times. So it's kind of cool to get to see some of that. So, let's talk about something even more exciting. SEO. About that's a pretty exciting topic. If you're still listening to this. Thank you appreciate it. Who listens on pocket casts? Seems like one person listens on pocket cast. I give you stats, you know, and I'm able to see some stuff. There's a lot of players and stuff I can't see. So I'm not sure like, I can see like Spotify stats and stuff. But like this one on player FM, the downloads that every once in a while. You think like Oh, is that like a bot or something that just like checks the feed? Why is player FM even noticing that podcast, you know, but at least it shows up somewhere? Thanks a lot, tipping my hat to you for checking out the podcast on whatever you find it on. But yeah, speaking of how you find things on the internet, what's more exciting than talking about SEO I've been working on keep it short. I've been working on SEO on my website and trying to figure it out a little. But really like kind of once you figure out or at least the basic process what you're supposed to do like I'm trying to go through and fill in a bunch of the details that I had left kind of blank in the past sort of in a rush to populate content on the website. So for a long time, if you notice them, I'm sure all of you are frequent visitors to the great website. Billy Newman photo calm but a lot of it for a long time wasn't really maintained well and so a lot of the posts had been made through some cross-posting mechanism that I had created with if an is this, then that command that said if a new Facebook photo post is made, take that photo and send it out to Twitter and flicker and a Tumblr page and a 500 pX Photo page and your website and your WordPress page, right. So that's how a lot of the photos ended up showing up on the website was through this command that would grab the photo, and then sort of automatically, in an automated way populate a post a photo post with, you know, just whatever the text of the tweeter, the Facebook post was, and then make a blog post with that what was not included in that post was anything that would be search engine optimization information. So there's no alt tag, there's no title to the photo, or it was an automated title that was like a weird hash of numbers and tax and stuff that would have come from Facebook, I suppose. And you know, so it was just kind of like weird changes, that would have happened. And they were kind of stripped-down. So yeah, the alt tags weren't there, there was no description, there were no links in the post, or, or body text of the blog posts. So there's really nothing like for anything to index or populate. So what I've been trying to do is go back through all this post is probably around 1500 posts or so I think what it says on my site is that there's something like 1600 posts or something on it. So I've done about 800 of them. So far, it's really pretty rudimentary stuff that I've been changing, it's probably there's, there's, I'm sure there's, there's grades of it that you could do, and I could probably do a better job of filling out the information to be more accurate or more bespoke, or to fit into a certain SEO topic a little better. But as it goes through the most part, I've just been kind of trying to take the different pieces and then fill them out a little more. So that at least in some way, they are populated with something that's that's kind of cogent, and, and cohesive, you know, like that makes some sort of sense that I put together. So trying to do that, do some search engine optimization. So I've been adding a bunch of alt tags to buy photographs that are old blog posts and blocks of like links and different paragraph texts that are supposed to kind of explain some different things about it. A lot of that is sort of that sort of fuzzy stuff for all these old posts, I'm trying to go through and just add like some kind of kind of basic sort of standard attacks to pieces of like, you know, there's this about me, there's this about my gear, there's this about stuff that you can find out about different places or something. So I kind of like I just kind of put together there's like notes list. And then I've been going through and then try to run a couple little, little commands, or you know, have this little like process, do these three steps. And then you kind of like, make these couple changes to each post, and then you move on to the next one you get you check your SEO score. And then you kind of bump to the next one. So what I'm trying to do is fill out the the meta tags, the alt tags, the descriptions and titles with better SEO quality, I guess titles and descriptions, so that they're able to be populated into Google or other search engines more effectively. Like that's a terrible thing. Like when I like I search for my name, or I search for different maybe photos that I have. It's really kind of sparse that as the links from my website are the ones that are populating that, that list there. There's a few others that are that are probably not even really super high quality links that are in there. Like I think there's like just, I think, character that was that a different name, you're in the mind. That one seems to show up. There's a couple from another photographer named Billy Newman, there's another one from a jazz guitar player who has an album on Spotify, who's named Billy Newman. And so there's a couple of couple funny ones that seemed about there's a guy who was on the grassy knoll, that guy was in billing, he was weird things when you find it, you know, Google your name, or you look at the Google image search of your name or your business or something you're like, who's that? What do they do? Weird? So I've been doing that a little and trying to kind of back search and figure out like, what links populate? You know, what's weird, too, as I look at it, you know, I've like put links everywhere, right? I was saying, I've been kind of working on this website thing for a long time. You know, to some degree, like I was saying, I didn't really fill out the information properly. So I'm sure Google never probably even really indexed it at all. But when I look around, and I look at the photos that are listed in the first couple pages of the search result for either My name or, or something kind of related to me, the things that come up are like it's a photo from Twitter, or it's like my Facebook profile picture that has like my name in it or something. And that's like the highest quality as like the highest quality Billy Newman picture that exists out there something or like you're even if I find like a photograph of mine that I put up somewhere, it'll say, it's from my Tumblr page. I think, what I never even I don't think I've been to my Tumblr page, like I was saying before, like, you know, I just set up a thing, and then it's going to automatically post to this blog role. And no one goes to that Tumblr page. Like it's always been spam. I don't think I've ever got like a real person comment or like, you know, I don't think I've ever got any interaction there? So, but it's really about what you get when you do like a search or something like out with Tumblr, or how this Flickr page is where this is from our Twitter, like, yeah, there's a few of them that, you know, just pop out from somewhere weird. Well, where's this from? Or like my ancient WordPress site? That one shows up sometimes before my new site, right? Like when I was in college, and I had like a free wordpress.com site. Billy Newman.wordpress.com is still out there. And yeah, you can pull it up. But I think it was just like the same as thinking about I was like, man, wow, hey, still on the internet, that's cool. I was thinking about kind of making a couple of those other are a few more like wordpress.com sites are kind of useful for some things. And given the you don't have to really work on maintaining them, it's kind of a nice way to have just some kind of easy, static thing. And if you need to you can you can set up a referral link or what not a referral link, a redirect some kind of like redirect from a URL that you have to make it a little cleaner or something if you're working on a project or something. Yeah, yeah, we're going through search engine stuff, trying to find your name trying to find your pictures. And it is working that like as a noticing, like, as I filled out some more tag information, the title information in the right way. And I kind of try and include, like some sort of mention of my name in there in the description or something or like, you know, photograph by, so that, I know, that's kind of a trick that I've heard from some photographers in the past that were working on some images and publishing them as one of the things that they said is like one of the most important things you can do to be found, or at least to be followed up with, if a photograph of yours is found is to include some kind of like, like authorship information in the description, or metadata of the photograph that you render out. And I think that there's a way that you can do that automatically, by applying the EXIF data, or like, you know, some metadata in your library module in Lightroom. I think there's, there's other tools you can use to edit your metadata, as well, I think you look at it stuff like the the title or the tags that the photo has. And then in that, also, I think that you can, you can like put your copyright information in your name. And I have seen photographs like that before, where Yeah, like, you download like a wallpaper image or something. But then if you check out the EXIF data on the side, it's really quite populated with a lot of information, a lot of different pieces, including their name and different tags about what the photo is about. So when it is put together in a better way, I guess, you know, it makes it easier, or just much simpler to find out like oh, well, like I like this photograph, who's this photograph by, and then it says right there within it, you don't really have to go search anywhere else, or at least you're, you're immediately kind of in contact with the contact with the information for that for that person. So that is cool and can be a good thing. And I hadn't really done it before. So I'm trying to go through and do that with all these past photographs to figure those out. And then, at the same time, I'm trying to do a bunch of edits, on a bunch of photographs that I have really put, I don't really put up a bunch of new stuff in the last couple of years. Um, so I'm trying to go through a bunch of that stuff. And some older stuff, too. That's kind of cool. And I'm trying to kind of tune it up a bit in the editing and get the kind of print-ready is sort of infinity for some stuff. But also, some of it's just fine, I'm trying to populate and edit up some old, old photographs, or I'm trying to kind of get into some black and white stuff a bit more too, which is cool. But go through some of these images and trying to prep up a bunch of them. I'm also trying to write out sort of a format for setting up these, you know, like I'm saying like, some more information about whatever I'm trying to write about in a post that sort of associated with these photographs that I'm editing. So I've been trying to set that up so that I can schedule them and have the kind of ready to do on the website. Which is super exciting. I mean, I was just like, well, I got to write, I got like sit here and like write out the answers to like these, like sets of questions that are kind of like made for myself that like kind of put together like okay, well I'm going to train this photo, like, Where was it taken? You know, what was it doing? What was it about was the experience like, what kind of gear to the user, you know what kind of whatever kind of little questions you'd have about like, what, what happened to make this photo or something? Yeah, I'm kind of trying to figure that out. Look at which are these interesting? And then how do I go through and like, answer that question and then make that into like, the paragraphs that make up the post about this photograph, it kind of gets tiring sometimes because you sort of seem like you're repeating especially you have to do it in bulk. But just to like, write about your description of a photo and the source. Or at least for myself, like I kind of feel like I get lost a bit in trying to better describe what was happening. You know, like, what, what, what I need to say, I mean, I said like, I know I use a camera, I held it up I took a picture. It looked good when I looked at it, and I edited it a little. There's a lot more to it than that. But man, you can really seem sanctimonious when you start writing paragraphs about the you know, like just whatever mystery you think it is to I've taken a picture that looked okay. So I kind of want to avoid, avoid some of that if I can, and I like so Some of the creative writing that I see, but sometimes I see photographers, and their writing is difficult. So I think I've even added to the pool of that problem in the past, but even still download my e-book working with them. That's good stuff. So yeah, what I'm noticing is that sometimes photographers are cool to read. But sometimes they're not as cool to read. Because it just seems like what we got, like, we know you took the picture, like, like, next page, okay, and like, Oh, yeah, he took the picture. Okay, right. Next page. What did you write about that? So, it seems like that a little with, with some, some photo books that I've seen in the past or some photo blogs that I've seen, which is probably what I'm going to continue to do. I will share in the tradition. I made a link tree page. Have you seen this before? I think I've seen some YouTubers have it. So I'm hoping it means it's hip. But I think there's a link tree website, I think it's, I think like Instagrammers or something, would you use it too, I think it was something that became popular. So you could put it as your one bio link in your Instagram profile. And what it was, was a click, or a quick link out to just a super simple sort of landing page that had like a stack of like links, it was just like, you know, just a page. Why am I over explained is it was it was a stack of links, and a website called link tree, and you'd have a profile there. And you'd make this your bio link and Instagram. And then when you click that link, you would get a stack of, say, a dozen other links to all your other places that you'd want people to go. So you get two expansion, just that one link too many links, I think was sort of the need it was designed to help out with, but it is kind of useful, maybe I don't know, we'll see if like, I don't have any traffic going through those places to probably really use that in any way other than just direct through a link. But the link tree services are kind of cool, I'm going through and trying to put that in some spots, so that you can click there and then go to different links. So you can like kind of like direct link over to an Ebook page if you want to check that out. And then the next one down could be your Instagram page, or your Facebook page or your website or your blog and website for your about page, or your new project that you're trying to list or whatever it is. I was going to see it in. Yeah, and some more more managed accounts were managed social media accounts and stuff. So I thought I'd try it out. And at least in the simple way, kind of set up a super easy profile, and then just stack up a few of the links that I have. So I think it's a link tree. Slash Billy Newman probably was it's kind of a weird, the weird like URL. It's like, I don't know, like the die. It's like link, link t. r e or something like that, you know, it's kind of like, what's going on? I probably got that wrong. But it's like, it's kind of a tricky URL, but I'm sure if you Google it or something, but link tree slash Billy Newman, I think she'd pull my stuff up. It was whatever, I don't know. Probably find it on my website, too. It's really like what my website is, is just like a stack of links that go out to the other, the other services and stuff that I'm proud to populate. And kind of fun. But yeah, this week has been a lot of computer work, a lot of writing stuff, a lot of cutting pears and apples up, kind of harvest season two, like I was saying hates the Fall. So when we're before like we process most of the apples that have come down in the summer, and then now there's a pears that we got a hold of, and so we're trying to go through those and process them up and then freeze them for the winter. Good times. So it's pretty fun skaffa I'm having a good time. putting it together. Make some pies and chips this winter and Fall. You good time. But thanks a lot for listening to this episode of The Billy Newman photo podcast is kind of an easy one today, right? Talking about SEO talking about smoke that used to be here. Talking about website posts. Dedicated listeners appreciate things I'm going to wrap up this podcast here appreciate you guys checking it out, and you're welcome to go to Billy Newman photo comm forward-slash support, or Billy Newman photo.com forward slash about to find out more of the things that I'm up to or more of the ways you can support some of the photo work that I'm up to. I'm looking forward to going out this week. I think I'm taking off here pretty soon and trying to do a couple photo projects through the week. Trying to get into some more video stuff like couple longer clips of some outdoor areas that I need to grab. So we'll see if I can kind of populate that this week and there's a couple other things too about some Job stories I should talk about. I'll try and get into that in the next episode. Much appreciated for checking this one out. You can go I guess. But thanks a lot, you know, it's goodbye Good