Indonesia: Pope Visit, Shrinking Middle Class & Policy Reforms & Financial Literacy with Gita Sjahrir - E476

Gita Sjahrir, Head of Investment at BNI Ventures, and Jeremy Au discussed:

1. Pope Visit: They reflect on Pope Francis’ recent visit to Indonesia, emphasizing its significance as a beacon of positive media influence. The visit was part of a broader Asia Pacific tour and marked the first extensive travel of the Pope to the region. Gita noted the massive turnout, with events drawing large crowds, celebrating Indonesia's commitment to diversity and religious tolerance.

2. Shrinking Middle Class: Gita and Jeremy examined the significant decline in Indonesia’s middle class, which has fallen from 57 million to 48 million people. Macro factors such as the pandemic, global inflation and supply chain disruptions exposed structural weaknesses within the Indonesian economy, making it difficult for many individuals to maintain their middle-class income.

3. Policy Reforms & Financial Literacy: They stressed the need for more inclusive economic policies to support small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs). They discussed the logistical and infrastructural challenges faced by businesses in Indonesia’s decentralized geography. While the population is digitally savvy, many Indonesians are caught in cycles of predatory loans due to a limited understanding of financial literacy. They contrasted the ease of obtaining consumer credit vs. the hurdles small businesses face in securing productive loans.

They also talked about redefining economic metrics to better reflect modern realities, the critical role of vocational education in economic empowerment, and the challenges of implementing equitable economic policies.

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